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Last post 02-17-2008, 3:23 PM by MargaretClare. 7 replies.
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  • EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 431

     03-06-2007, 9:13 AM

    EU summit at Laeken 2001.

    At this summit there was a ratified proposal that all member states should endeavour to attain  a level of 40% of their median wages as their basic state pension by 2007 and thereafter work towards 60%.

    An income of 60% of the median wage is considered the poverty line by the EU.

    The British Basic Pension is 18% of the National average wage.

    Pensioners are 40% of the electorate therefore are extremely powerful. We can make or break any government at election time.

    Stop being apathetic , write to your MP ,it is his job to protest to the government on your behalf.

    Visit the Prime Ministers Website and sign the petition at www.petitions.pm.gov.uk/honourpensions

  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 531 in reply to 431

     04-05-2007, 4:37 PM

    I would like to add my name etc. to the petition refering to pensions

    (letter in Advertiser, by Ron Godfrey) 

     

  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 850 in reply to 431

     10-02-2007, 11:44 AM

    Hi Bluejohn

    The Wyre Pensioner Forum are drafting a letter on this subject as you suggest.Can you give me a reference that specifically states that the members signed up to this target of 40%.

    Cheers

    Dgrandad

  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 877 in reply to 431

     11-06-2007, 2:49 PM

    To all,

    There is a petition on the Downing Web site for UK state pensions to be brought in line with Europe, for abolition of the council tax, and for the abolition of the means test for all British pensioners. 

    This petition was put up by Christine Abram who is a Link-Age/Countrywide supporter, and Link-Age/Countrywide is non party political, and campaignings on behalf of the old, and the young, re- a decent state pensions on reaching retirement age of at least 250 pounds per week for all British pensioners.

    To go direct to the petition, - write into your server as follows,-

    h t t p : / / www.notdeadyet. co. uk  ( close up and press enter ) then scroll down, and click onto this-,

    h t t p : / / petitions. pm. gov . uk / decentpensions/

    Yours sincerely

    Michael Thompson-Founder/Link-Age/Countrywide

  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 878 in reply to 877

     11-10-2007, 9:37 AM

    If you want to do something about pensions  why not send this letter to your MP and MEP.

    Dear Sir

    It should come as no surprise for you to learn that the UK has the lowest state pension in Europe. Irish pensioners, immediately above us, receive at least £7 more each week.

    For many years the state pension increased each year keeping pace with the national average wage. Since 1982 it has grown solely in accordance with the rate of inflation. This has led to 25 years without a meaningful increase in state pension, which in turn means that pensioners’ standard of living has failed to improve noticeably over the past quarter of a century.

    Following the Laeken European summit in 2001 the Commission reported that pensioners receiving less than 60% of the National Average Wage were at risk of living in poverty. The UK government signed a commitment ensuring that older people are not placed at risk of poverty and can enjoy a decent standard of living.
    With the exception of the UK, all other countries are adhering to this undertaking, while the UK pension remains, as it stood in 2001, at 13.7% of the national average wage.

    It is a popular view that pensioners are a burden on society, but a global study by HSBC and Oxford University shows that in the UK they contribute £59 billion to the economy each year - £5.5 billion in tax, £4.2 billion in voluntary work and upwards of £50 billion in family care.
    The study emphasises the enormous contribution made by pensioners by giving so freely of their talents , time and care. This is not only for their country, their loved ones and for those in need of care, but for a society that relies increasingly on the voluntary sector to assist in the delivery of a host of essential services.

    It is a fact that 1.4 million pensioners are known to be living in poverty. Many receive an income that excludes them from seeking financial help from the state.
    UK pensioners are subject to means tests unlike their European counterparts. This is a demeaning system of determining entitlement in this age of enlightenment and human rights.
    They are in that grey zone where bureaucracy fails to acknowledge they exist, where people are stripped of their dignity and well-being and are left to quietly pass away.All the while our politicians continue to boast that our Welfare State is the envy of the world.

    On behalf of UK pensioners may I ask you to call on the Government and all politicians to urgently recognise the needs and value of pensioners. This would ensure that promises made in 2001 are implemented without delay so that by 2011 – ten years after the promise was made – the State Pension will have reached 60% of the National Average Wage.

    Yours Sincerely.

     

  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 882 in reply to 878

     11-14-2007, 12:47 PM
    The annual AON Consulting European pension survey confirmed yesterday that the UK state pension is still the lowest in Europe.This is reported in the Daily Telegraph and can be found at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/13/cnpens113.xml.

    It cites the report as saying "It is a difference of philosophy and a different view of the role of the state. In most of Europe, it is believed that the state's obligation is to ensure that people have a reasonable standard of living, relative to what they had when they were working.

    "In the UK, the role of the state is to ensure that people do not starve. If people want to have more than the basic level, they need to save for themselves."

    I think that's a good summary of our problem in the UK.
  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 997 in reply to 882

     02-17-2008, 2:29 PM
    Yes, that is an accurate summary of the view of the State in the UK: "if you need to do more than just survive, you have to do it for yourselves...." and I would add, "and when you do, we will tax you at 40 percent, thanks very much."
  • Re: EU summit at Laeken 2001.-pension proposal ratified by UK 1002 in reply to 997

     02-17-2008, 3:23 PM
    They don't tax us at 40%.  My husband and I barely pay any tax at all and from April, we'll pay even less.  From April we can each have income of £9030 a year before paying any tax at all.  We also have married couple's allowance which we split between us to set against our individual income.

    I can't see what's wrong with the philosophy as quoted above - why shouldn't people make an effort for themselves?

    Being not rich but not poor either is the best place to be.

    In addition, I am really not bothered about what the Europeans do in Europe.  I am English.